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Archibald Murdoch FORSYTHE
1890 - 1943

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• Birth	1890	Nurrabiel, Victoria Reg No 35143/1880
  Gender	Male
  Died	1943	Praham, Victoria Reg No 8311/1943
  Person ID	I242	Forsythe of Horsham & WA
  Last Modified	8 Mar 2014

  
  

  Father	Robert FORSYTHE,   b. 1846, Kilkeel, County Down, Ireland ,   d. 18 May 1905, Drung Drung, Horsham, Victoria
  Relationship	Natural
  Mother	Mary GILLIES,   b. 1849, Sleat, Isle of Skye, Scotland ,   d. 01 Jun 1907, Deniliquin, NSW
  Relationship	Natural
  Married	05 May 1868	Koroit, Victoria Reg No 1941/1868
  Divorced	02 Sep 1892	Horsham, Victoria, Australia. Ref. No. 53, Co-Respondent John McRae of Noradjuha, Farm labourer
  Family ID	F35	Group Sheet

  
  

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  First World War Embarkation Rolls - Archibald Murdock Forsythe Service Number: 683 Rank: Private Roll title: 9 LHR [Light Horse Regiment] - 1 to 10 Reinforcements (February-September 1915) Conflict: First World War, 1914-1918 Date of embarkation: 29 January 1915 Place of embarkation: Australia: Melbourne Ship embarked on: HMAT Mashobra A47 The Horsham Times, A NEGLECTED LAD. SENT TO THE REFORMATORY. At the Horsham Police Court on Friday, before Meesrs J. Carroll and F. Williams, J'sP., a lad named Archibald Murdoch Forsyth, 16 years of age, was charged, on remand, with being a neglected child. Ser- geant Kennealy represented the police, and Mr. Power appeared for the father of the boy. The evidence of Robert Forsyth, a farmer, residing at Drung Drung, and father of the boy, was to the effect that he was divorced from his wife. About two years ago the boy was living with his mother, and he got the police to bring him to Nurrabiel, where witness was then residing. The lad cleared out, and returned to Horsham, but witness took him back again, and when he (the father) went for a trip to England he paid for his son's board and lodging at Dimboola. He took the boy home a fortnight ago last Saturday, but a week later he went back to Horsham, and galloped about the town on a mare, which he said was a racer. When at home he was uncontrollable, and he had taken his son home on four occasions after he had cleared out. Nobody could believe a word the boy said. Constable Black deposed to having known the boy for some years, and as far as he was able to judge he was incorrigible. He would not work, and when in Horsham slept in stables, lofts and outbuildings-in fact, he was a perfect nuisance. Witness did not know how he was treated by his father, who did not seem to have any control whatever over him. Asked if he had anything to say, the boy burst into tears. Mr. Power said that the best course to pursue was to send the boy to the Reforma- tory Schools, the only question to consider being the amount of the contribution required from his father. In the interests of the lad himself that was the best thing that could happen. The father was willing tp again take him home, but it was questionable whether he should be given. Sergeant' Kennealy thought that in the interests of the lad, it would be better to place him under the care of the Department for Neglected Children. In answer to the sergeant, the boy said that his father did not beat him, but would not give him clothes. Mr. Power said that if the bench con- sidered it was advisable to send the boy to the Reformatory Schools, the question for consideration was as to his maintenance. The lad was big enough to work, and that should be taken into consideration. Mr. Williams said that it would be very unfair to burden the State with the boy s maintenance. Mr. Carroll pointed out that the moment a child was sent from the schools to work he ceased to be a neglected child and the 'maintenance contributions were discon- tinued. No boy would be sent to a place to work unless the authorities were reason- ably certain that he would stay. The father said that if the bench liked he would take his son home and give him another chance. It was decided by the bench to commit the boy to the care of the Department for Neglected Children, and the father was ordered to contribute 7s 6d a week towards his maintenance. It was apparent, the Bench added, that the father was incapable of controlling the boy, for whom the only suitable place was the Reformatory Schools.. Although an unruly Child, Archibald was not forgotten and was a beneficiary of his Father's Estate, when he died nine months later on 19 August 1904.. Archibald enlisted twice during World War 1.. No. 1 Enlisted AIF at Bendigo on 20 Nov 1914, #683, Private 3rd Reinforcements, 9th Light Horse. Embarked 29 Jan 1915 and disembarked at Cairo on 4 May 1915 on the 'Ceramic' and arrived in Melbourne on 25 May 1915, medically unfit, suffering with Lumbago. He was discharged on 28 July 1915. No. 2 Re-enlisted AIF at Port Melbourne on 28 Jul 1915, #1897, Private 2nd Reinforcements, 29th Battalion. Religion R/C. Occupation: Independent Means. He was declared a Deserter from 18 August to 18 December 1915 and embarked 29 December 1915 for Egypt. Disembarked at Suez 31 January 1916. On 12 April 1916, whilst suffering from Myxoedma ("A disease caused by decreased activity of the thyroid gland in adults and characterized by dry skin, swellings around the lips and nose, mental deterioration, and a subnormal basal metabolic rate"), he embarked at Suez on the 'Karoola'. On 12 May 1916 he disembarked at Melbourne. During the intervening four months before being discharged as Medically Unfit on 12 Septemner 1916, he went AWL on three occasions. On the last occasion he was charged with 'Having the badges of rank of sergeant he not being entitled to same'.. Timeline Birth 1890 Nurrabiel, Victoria, Australia Reg#35143 Victorian School for Neglected Children 1904 18 Aug — Age: 14 Boys' Receiving Depot, Royal Park, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia A Neglected Child 1904 18 Aug — Age: 14 Horsham, Victoria, Australia Living At 1905 22 May — Age: 15 Inmate of the Victorian School for Neglected Children From his Father Robert Forsythe's Probate Records Service Record 1914 20 Nov — Age: 24 Bendigo and Port Melbourne Living At 1915 28 Jul — Age: 25 4 Dow Street, South Melbourne, Victoria, Australia - With his 'Wife', Mrs A. M.Forsythe (Service Record) Living At 1915 — Age: 25 158 Nicholson Street, Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia - Service Record Living At 1920 16 Jun — Age: 30 Soldiers Road, Bangerang North, Victoria, Australia - Service Record Living At 1931 — Age: 41 Block 333, Red Cliffs, Victoria, Australia Occupation: Woolclasser (Electoral Roll) Living At 1932 — Age: 42 Red Cliffs, Victoria, Australia - He was 'burnt out' (Service Record) Living At 1934 14 Nov — Age: 44 177 Punt Road, Richmond, Victoria, Australia - Service Record Living At 1942 — Age: 52 2 Baxter Street, Elsternwick, Victoria, Australia Living with Kitty Forsythe. Occupation: Labourer (Electoral Roll) Death 1943 — Age: 53 Prahran, Victoria, Australia Reg#8311 Marriage?? Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Archibald Forsyth Name: Archibald Forsyth Spouse Name: May Rita Dunning Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1919 Registration Number: 7062